On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. Thank you. Whats that a photo of above then? An attorney for Kline declined to comment on the announcement. And the girls may well have been moved and put there late at night. The motion to seal was improper because it lacked verification a sworn oath under penalty of perjury, Rozzi said. So does a youth, so does the fairest maid Romeo and Juliet (1968) . It also hints at the idea that they were meeting someone there, a gift for a date. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. How long did it take to get everyone together? In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. He was released on September 8, court records show. As far as Mr. X being a POI, I disagree, as I also disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. What does he mean that they think they have Game but they dont. The inevitable questions arise. A special needs woman and a toddler? Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. Please correct me if you know otherwise. They are asking that anyone who recognizes the man in this photo to call the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413, the Delphi Police Department at 765-564-2345 or the Indiana . Which I'm sure made finding the girls all that worse. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? The two best friends went missing while on a hike through the historic trails Delphi, Ind. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene? Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, whose bodies were found in 2017. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. I dont even know what that means. Your email address will not be published. DELPHI, Ind. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Or Libby was going to tell all and bring many people down from previous insurance/appraisal scams? "My office, me, felt it was important to seal those records," McLeland said. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. 187 5.6K views 2 years ago THE DELPHI MURDERS - THE SEARCH (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST CLIPS) Breaking down the search in the case. Police have quizzed Kegan Kline over his correspondences with Libby German, a transcript leaked by Murder Sheet earlier this year revealed. Was just thinking this!! Its a pretty big coincidence that both these towns have a Tyson pork processing plant nearby. The search along the Wabash began around August 19, when investigators were seen combing through the shallow waters with metal detectors and scuba gear. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? See how people are reading too much into this guy? DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. He took his wife with him. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. In his arguments against unsealing Allen's probable cause affidavit, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland cited the need to protect the investigation as well as to protect the names of witnesses who might testify against Allen. The search continued Tuesday morning, Valentine's Day, along the trails and the creek. As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. And that he also told us that they suspect Mr. X in Evansdale too, right? Ive heard he was not on the other side of the creek at all. Liberty, who went by Libby, and Abigail, who went by Abby, went for a hike along the Monon High Bridge on Feb. 13, 2017. Both of the Pattys are quite insistent that theres no way he did it after all, he was a friend of theirs. The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? Second thing to consider, From what I understand (per the Prosecutors podcast on the Delphi Murders from a few months ago, which isnt entirely accurate but better than most) they called the official search party off at 11pm or midnight. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. He posts that while at a restaurant, he observed what he decided is a man touching his kids inappropriately. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (54?) It was his first appearance in public since his Oct. 28 arrest and initial hearing. Id assume the kind that is foggy? His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. As a psychologist though, It does makes me stop and think about LE and the types of scenes and different tragedies etc. Thanks for posting. Is this confirmed? And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. 1:08. According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. Richard Allen arrested:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. 28th was the day.. Kline is in jail awaiting trial on 30 charges related to child pornography, but he has not been charged in the Delphi murders. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said the probable cause affidavit and charging information are sealed by the court. News outlets throughout the state, including Gannett, the Hoosier State Press Association and the Indiana Broadcasters Association, filed a brief Monday in favor of the documents' release. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. Contact her at [email protected] or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. You have a million people who come out and say OMG THERES JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT. But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, Im sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasnt there. "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" A kind of sick taunt? So if the search started technically in the dark on the 13th, the actual time they had when they could really see anything was from 9 AM to 12 PM on the 14th. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. "I dont feel like I thought I would. Required fields are marked *. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. After the Leaker leak came out, I guess things hotted up and he moved to his other property in Monticello maybe to get out of the heat for a while. What's the procedure when bodies are located? Think about it like this. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. wishtv.com your home page, Business, Equity and Opportunities Podcast with Scott Sander, Myles Colvin captivates Heritage Christian crowds, preps for Purdue, Indiana wildlife expert on bald eagle killing: Its sad, IMPD policy on seized guns called into question, Indiana governor grants clemency to prisoner with inoperable brain tumor, 2 tornadoes confirmed in northern Hancock County. He was very well-liked in town. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. DELPHI, Ind. He does, as Carter warned, appear younger than he is. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. How could that not be a stuffed animal? I think they were lured or catfished at some point. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? At the conclusion of Tuesday morning's 40-minute hearing, Special Judge Fran Gull said she will publish a decision on whether to make public the charging documents and affidavit after reviewing both sides' arguments. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. "Let me ask you - why would you, after you failed the polygraph about knowing about the Delphi investigation, come home, delete your Snapchat and your Instagram, which you used to communicate with Libby, and then you searched, how long does DNA last?" Also close friends with Ron Logan and Tobe Lozenby! Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. Theyre seeing evil in everything where theres generally none. I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the. I am so suspicious of Mr. Xs cemetery hangout and if the rumor about the keys being at the site is true. "For now, to me, it's about protecting the integrity of this case.". Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. There were dolls hanging from trees. Any theories? They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. "My worry is if he is trying to get a plea deal or whatever, then what if he's just telling them lies? Allen's attorney, Bradley Rozzi, argued in favor of releasing the documents. Just a thought. Nice guy! Big Tweety bird eyes. I've always wondered about the specific search party that found the girls'. Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. Reach Ron Wilkins at [email protected]. Were going to keep pushing all the way. Initial searches of the area didn't turn up the girls and local law enforcement halted the search at dark, picking it up the following morning. Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. On Feb. 25, 2017, officers with Indiana State Police, the Peru Police Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation executed a search warrant on Kline's home as part of that investigation,. The only exceptions are murder and treason. "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. Example, women think they got game, they dont.. That sort of thing. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. About the stuffed animals hanging from the trees. Am I expecting too much? Days after the bodies were found, Indiana State Police released a photo of a man they suspected was involved in the killings. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. Stores would have been stocked with them that week. It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. 0:04. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. Thats also why Carter said, The killer, who may be in this room as we speak Because the guy who they think did it was indeed right there in that room as they were speaking! Or by their accounts, what were they doing? "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. I suspect he was breeding pitbulls for dogfighting. Citizens? The investigation is far from complete, Carter said new details and documents will not be released until deemed appropriate in the process. 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