The original Kleer - Pledge. Which specific features you liked or disliked, and why. For the small scales, this is usually faster and easier than setting up an airbrush. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. I'm not endorsing or criticizing the use of Future, just sayin'. I use the stuff out of the spray can and I love it. Read the full FAQ. "Do you thin Future, if so with what? Short answer yes. I am thinking about applying a coat of Modelmaster gloss enamel over the acrylics I use as a way of providing a protective layer, any thoughts on that? Many features may not work properly without it. It may be that something else will actually do the job well. This is a 3 oz. I dont think it would attack any paint as you only use a very few and wipe the excess a few seconds after setting the decal. Be careful not to go to far to the left or you will find yourself in double-action. It is crystal clear in color and designed for use with painted model cars and trucks. Indeed, it will thin the paint, but later it will effect the paint layer. I have the ratio down fine, I just need to know if misting light coats is ok, or do you need to let a sort of 'pool' build up a little bit as you sweep the airbrush back and forth? If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. Model Master Metalizer Please see FAQ 5 for full Model Master Metalizer instructions. I'm interested to see examples of applications if anyone cares to share? My bottle is pretty old too, since I usually use the rattle can. #10. applying laquers over acrylics is not recommended, but you can apply acrylics over laquers or laquer over laquer and acrylic over acrylic to be safe, whenever I use Tamiya paints I use Tamiya dull coat the same for testors, try to stick with same brands. Some years of that career i worked in a labo, and there i learned all this stuff. It's a little confusing how they label stuff. Thinner: - 1419 metalizer thinner, Model Master Auto Lacquer Join our email list to receive our Weekly Ad, special promotions, fun project ideas and store news. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. No reason to spray the whole car with gloss then have to re spray it with dull coatDaveB. I typically do a couple light coats (this will dry to the touch in just minutes), then get a little heavier, with a few more coats. My Gloss Coat Options are - Testors 1161 Glosscote Lacquer - Mr Hobby 030 Gloss Clear - Humbrol 35 Gloss Varnish - TAMIYA Gloss . These products work very well in thinning ourlacquer paints for use in an airbrush. I have been using Testors gloss and dull cotes for over 30 years with. National Model Railroad Association, Inc. SC Johnsons Pledge Floor Care Multi-Surface Finish. no problems. You should be aware once you mix this clear coat, it should not exceed 48 hours while in the pot before applying it. Testors TES1261 Glosscote Spray Enamel 3Oz, Clear Coat (Pack of 4) - with Make Y . Unfortunately i got no experience with Testor's clear coats in order to comment further. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. I add the "high buck" note with a caution:Over the years, I've had some trouble with using a cheap mineral sprits (paint thinner) with Testers enamels and now stick with their thinner when thinning their paint. You can get MinWax brand semigloss and gloss at your local big box store, but the flat seems to only be available at paint stores. It is also great for applying decals . Being old school and recalling the no lacquer over enamel rule, I called and got this answer. I have even brushed (manual) on a thin coat to create the eggshell look in a small area. I use both Testors gloss and dull cote and use Home Depot LT to thin it about 20% LT and rest Testors stuff. 255 characters remaining, 25 characters maximum Or at least that of a lot of mini painters. Not meant to criticise in any way. Thin it with lacquer thinner. C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1, Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums. Since my local hobby store closed and its 250km to the next well stocked it makes a few jars of x22 expensive! For questions or concerns regarding recent orders or product availability, please contact us. Delivery time is estimated using our proprietary method which is based on the buyer's proximity to the item location, the shipping service selected, the seller's shipping history, and other factors. Just doing a single coat. Enamels require 48-72 hours for a full cure. By this I mean products from Modelflex, Polly S and the manufacturer of Microset/Microsol. Please see FAQ 5 for full Model Master Metalizer instructions. If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! Forgot account? Spray 3 to 4 light mist coats. Ive used Tamiya X22, but my current favorite is Mission Models Clear Gloss, however I dont know if its available in Austrailia. I might add the Metalizer Sealer to the list, as it was a . For me, this results in a finish that's between flat and satin. By The spray comes in an easy-to-hold 3-ounce can. I checked with our big RR club members here in town, they say it's not touchy stuff at all, generic lacquer thinner works well. But maybe the most importand fact is the methanol. Thanks guys. Yannis it is interesting you highlight micro set and Microsol difference! As Volzj stated, experiment with your thinning, ratio. July 20, 2007 in Tools 'n' Tips. I have also thought of using the Mr. Surfacer UV Cut Gloss Coats, but am a little anxious about trying out a new product. Choose your favorite color of paint (sold separately), allow it to dry completely, then apply this top . Any decal can be sealed with Testors Glosscote or Dullcoat, but. But there nothing better than one's own experience, so you can try yourself and see what you get. To avoid possible wrinkling, recoat withing 3 hours or after 48 hours. It's the Future that I'm having reaction issues with. 1156 Thinner/Brush Cleaner. Make sure to wipe down the can so that no water drips on the model. Heres a link with a lot of good information on Future however, its a few years out of date: http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html. I can hear you asking about Dullcote and Glosscote. I've been using it with great success on 1/35 military and 1/72 aircraft kits for the past ten years or so. Applying too thick of a layer at one time just creates problems and a surface that isn't glass smooth. Then I apply a light dust coat. Spray 3 to 4 light mist coats. I have also used polyurethane for clear coats. Customer Reviews: We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. Log In. Same acrylic based ones, enamel based ones, and even solvent based ones are surely possible. Airbrush Thinning Ratios The most importand negative effect is color fading and killing of the uv filter protection. Again, make sure the acrylic has cured at least a few days. Dec 29, 2016. notE: the numbers listed below are only a guide and may vary from color to color. I was told not to use LT but to use enamel thinner to dilute it. If I use Scalecoat II(which is what I prefer), I use Scalecoat II thinner. Experiment on scrap material before you begin painting an actual project. To participate you must either login or register for an account. ASIN : B079VP5ZVD. Testors. and have tried almost every manufacturer's brand of gloss to get a finish where the decals won't silver. Can you follow that with Dullcoat, or some other flat coat? The answer to this question is an easy one for me: Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss acrylic, thinned with Mr. Color Thinner. I have used both Krylon Gloss Clear and Flat (Matte) Clear for decaling and/or dulling finishes with great results. Call me old fashioned and conservative, but I largely stick to manufacturers thinners. Past month; 5 . I have used them for a long time too and never had a yellowing problem. Acrylics will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure I'm now ready for decals and exploring my options and i'm interested in people experience with them and recommend one or the other, - Testors 1161 Glosscote Lacquer- Mr Hobby 030 Gloss Clear- Humbrol 35 Gloss Varnish- TAMIYA Gloss Clear x22, At the moment i'm leaning towards Testers and following sequence. manage your account online and more! Thin paint by adding thinner drop by drop, until your consistency has been achieved. Dullcote does only one thing, but it does it extremely well: it gives your minis a glorious flat, matte finish. Never add thinner to the paint jar. If you have good results with your decals using future, it's just because the Future acts like a glue and fill the microscopic bubbles between the surface and the decal film, so you avoid silvering and improve the adherence of the decal. Enamels require 48 hours for a full cure "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash. Must be clear coated in 2 hours. I have even brushed (manual) on a thin coat to create the eggshell look in a small area. It's fine to spray over cured acrylic cuz it dries quick. I've used it over enamel, acrylics, lacquer and never been disappointed with its results. It can be used over all Testor, Pactra and Model Master enamels and acrylics after they have dried. (15) Testors # tes1261. All rights reserved. Shipping & Returns. Can someone help answer the following questions: https://www.testors.com/pages/help-and-support/faqs/general-questions/?page=1. I use nothing but MM enamels. This was however, using their original paint formula which Tamiya changed after many people experienced cracking issues with their paints, especially the clear ones. Can Future be applied over X-22 (very modestly)? The spray comes in an easy-to-hold 3-ounce can. That will be one less coat of gloss over the metal. Just I'm risk averse. Extend the life of your craft projects with the Testors Spray Paint, Glosscote. Air pressure should be approximately 18-20 PSI I don't typically use Glosscote for a glossy finish--I just like it because it's a nice lacquer layer to do acrylic weathering over, and it dries quickly. I never give my chalk weathering a final clear finish as there is more than sufficient tooth to the Dullcoat to hold it in place . even when handled from time to time. I do not use acrylics at all, so can't comment there. Unless there's a lot of surface detail, I'd put the decals down with just water straight onto the metalizer (assuming decent quality decals). Or go heavier? It's easy. I useall three products both Testorsproducts, Tamiya Gloss and Semi. Rick. Thanks Lou for the link. I not sure if everyone knows this but the Future product from Johnsons is a natural product. Whether you liked or disliked the product. The sequence that i follow and works for me: Decals using Micro set (the blue lettered bottle), When decals are drying i apply Micro-sol (the red lettered bottle), Seal when all is dry with Clear Gloss or Clear Satin Coat (if needed several coats), Flat clear coat (Tamiya is good, as is Galeria series by W&N). Butyrate gets topcoated by Butyrate Clear. In general, use the manufacturer's clear coat. Sign Up; Reviews; Browse. Again, make sure the acrylic has cured at least a few days. I usually use Future for my clearcoats, but of course you can't if you're going to be doing an acrylic wash and scrubbing that off with windex. Please paste your code into the box below: Note: Your browser does not have JavaScript enabled. i read that a while back and forgot to bookmark it later on. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. TESTOR . Kevin, Dean, any reason you don't thin X-22 with windscreen wiper fluid? After decals I wait about a week before dullcoat. Your link has been automatically embedded. Make sure you keep your coats thin. Microsol makes the decals VERY soft in order to conform over raised details and other irregular (non flat) surfaces. PrimeColor CoatTesters GlossDecal Application using MicroSolTesters Gloss Entire Model then following with weathering and tone down the car. Pasted as rich text. Metalizer will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure For clear coats it will yellow in time because of the negative effect of the soap on, one of the substances, the paste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylic_paint. If anyone has a source in Australia i'm open to options as there is a few floating around and to be honest im not sure i want to go testing each one to find the solution everyone is usuing. Usually I start out with the normal paints at about 25% thinner and thin more from there if it is not quite spraying well. www.stremy.net. Hold can 10" to 12: from work. I think lacquer thinner will still work on the acrylics. Two follow-up questions: 1. Gloss; 3 parts paint to 2 parts thinner I've used the model masters gloss coat and haven't had issues. October 3, 2016 in General Discussion. Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me..you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! 13,367 people follow this. Not that you were asking about it, but an alternative to Dullcote is to use Testors Model Master Acryl Flat Clear. I am curious to learn the experience of the forum members using the acrylic glosscote/dullcote equivalents. $7.90) Current Stock: Create New Wish List; SKU: TES1261 UPC: Availability: Orders ship within one business day . General Discussion - NO POLITICS. I find that the spray head on the Tamiya cans produces a finer mist than with the old Testors' spray cans. Also, what psi do you use to spray it? I do dullcote over pledge all the time. It can be sprayed as is and use ammonia based windex to clean your airbrush. If the paint is over thinned, the paint cannot be thickened. As for windscreen wiper fluid - the thought never occurred to me. Dick This crystal-clear finisher is specifically formulated to provide an ultra-glossy finish to assembled model cars, trucks, and more. I use Testers Model Master Acrylics for to color / base coats leaving a flat finish. After spending hours building, I don't want to risk mucking it up with the painting. If I want it flat, I reduce it by 30% with Model Master thinner. Flat; 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner Thinner: - all enamel thinners, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Twitter feed, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Pinterest board, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your YouTube page, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Instagram page. Orders placed by 11:00 AM Central Time using the Expedited option will ship the same day. Scot M. Posted July 21, 2007. $24.99 + $11.45 shipping. Testors Dullcote! Carefully slide the backing paper out from underneath the decal film leaving the film on the application surface. I use this too for most of my work. Mist on applications of the sealer so as not to diminish the reflectance. Out of Stock. <_< Hi everybody! This fluid is the most dangerous part of the the whole windscreen fluid, because it's very toxic. When sealing the buffing colors, use Product Numbers 1409, 1459 or 1261. I was unable to find directions though. Because I use these products extensively in my weathering,I would like to pass on this little caveat. Help other shoppers make informed decisions by reviewing your purchase. After decalling I've airbrushed a light coat of Testors Dullcote over it to seal the decals with no issues. Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings. With the roller all the way to the right, the paint is released by just pressing down. note: Product image is a representative image and may not show actual product labeling, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Twitter feed, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Pinterest board, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your YouTube page, Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Instagram page. I use Testors Glosscote and Dullcote almost exclusively for my clearcoating of everything but Butyrate Dope topcoats. What's the sense of that? To return an item, the item must be new, unused and in its original packaging. After 1 to 2 minutes dry, spray 2 to 3 even coats. So, they sell three bottles of gloss, satin and flat, labeled Custom Enamel System, but the thinner is labeled Custom Enamel System Lacquer Thinner. I have subsequently learnt that this is a known problem in that combination of products, over the weekend at a modeling show I was told to just apply very thin coats of Future. If you decide to use this clear coat, it will dry in more or less 12 hours. When using Testor Enamels or Model Master Enamels we suggest Testor No. I cannot airbrush, so I'm stuck using handbrushable paint, and enamels/lacquers damage the plastic, hence my use of acrylics.) Testors #1260T Dullcote Spray Enamel 3Oz Clear Coat Pack of 3 & PAINT BRUSH SET. One advantage is that semi-gloss (semi-matt?) I have used both the Testers #1159 thinnerand a lacquer thinner (though top shelf, high buck,stuff)from the local Farm & Fleet with success. Date First Available : August 12, 2018. I airbrush several light coats and it drys to a thin, high gloss finish. Recently I emailed Alclad paints regarding the proper fluid to thin theirAlclad II Lacquer Gloss Klear Kote ALC 310. There is also less chance of "lifting" paint if you use thin coats. Product details. To avoid possible wrinkling, recoat within 3 hours or after 48 hours. Large images may take a few minutes to appear. For some reason I've always preferred to under thin a little.just habit. Do you thin Future, if so with what? See question no.39 on "Paint Thinning" for additonal information for paint clean up. This YouTube Video shows you how to use your Aztek Airbrush in Double Action. Windscreen wiper fluid is not something I use. For matte coat, I use Krylon UV Resist, two coats, 20 minutes apart. Future is not designed as a hobby clear coat and is not a decal solvent either. By testors enamel are notorious for not drying very quick if you were sanding between coats you'd have to wait a week maybe longer between coats. Testors Lacquer Top Coat Liquid Glosscote 1.75 oz- Give your flat-finished model surfaces a glossy sheen with glosscote top coat. About 15-20 minutes I apply a normal coat then allow to dry for days before handling the item. Gloss Pearl Clear Coat Spray Testors $6.90 $6.56. And forgot to mention Aqua Gloss from Alclad which is an acrylic and sprays very smooth. It seems the lacquer thinner (Tamiya) is the best as it takes just the good time to dry. Testors 1260 may be labeled as Spray Enamel or as Spray Lacquer. I use both Testors gloss and dull cote and use Home Depot LT to thin it about 20% LT and rest Testors stuff. Shows you how to use Testors Model Master Metalizer please see FAQ 5 full. You 'll get what you always got! results in a finish that 's between flat and satin the did. 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